June 30, 2011 I received three particularly informative emails in response to the 3 (! egad!) emails I put out on 6/29/11 re: the concern about halal meat in the US. I thought they were well worth sharing —Dorrie.
#1
I have friends in the UK who have researched this issue from a Biblical perspective, and their teaching is basically that 1) because allah is a false god and is one of a myriad of ‘demon’ gods of the Arabian nations then it is a demon. 2) because halal meat must be slaughtered by a Muslim and specific Islamic prayers are said over it then it is deemed to be “offered to” said false ‘demon-god’ then 3) eating such meat is eating meat offered to idols–demons– and therefore participating in idolatry.
It is worth noting that the difference with Kashrut (kosher slaughter) is that the meat is not “offered” to God since it is forbidden in the Torah to offer ANY sacrifice anywhere other than the Temple in Jerusalem, which was destroyed 2000 yrs ago. Therefore kosher meat is slaughtered only in a certain way in obedience to the Torah and there is no religious or spiritual participation with God in eating it. Many people prefer to eat kosher meat because it is healthier, cleaner, the blood drained and their practice is more humane. Some people might like to make the argument that halal slaughter is more humane for the same reason, but you only have to look at the laws in their books and their society in general and compare it to the Torah to know that this is nonsense. There is NOTHING humane in Islam. My friends in the UK have found out that all the slaughter houses operating in the UK are Halal with the exception of one owned, I think, by the Prince of Wales.
It is for this reason that they are actually very careful what they say to other Christians in the UK about the halal issue, because according to the writings of Paul, once a believer is informed that the meat is halal, they are obligated NOT to eat it, but that if they eat NOT knowing that the meat is halal, then there is no issue. (See 1 Corinthians 8) For this reason, they are vegetarians. That way there is not an issue if they dine at someone elses home. They rarely eat out. It is also for this same reason that some of my friends have begun raising their own animals and learning to kosher slaughter their own meat.
#2
As an Orthodox Jew, this issue goes beyond Islam, as the prevalence of banning kosher slaughter (which is meant to be humane and as painless as possible) is moving through Europe. Apparently, they are incorporating Hallal restrictions with it as in this case, Mohammed seems to have derived many of the laws from ours, since they are similar. The fact of a public vote to ban circumcision in San Francisco is another in a wave of frightening and very anti-Semitic propaganda (but I guess in these cases also anti-Muslim).
I never thought I would write you in defense of Islam in any way, but I thought you should know where Islam and Judaism actually do have some similarities and where an effort to constrain Islam is also constraining Judaism.
[If the bills are written correctly, in the US or anywhere else, the resultant laws would not refer to any specific religious activity, but ONLY to the supremacist, jihadi, and inhumane Sharia/Islamic laws that need to be expunged from society. Halal food in and of itself is not the problem (except as the way the animals are killed, and the lack of humane thinking from Sharia is at the root of that, too); it’s the ideology behind it that is the problem.—Dorrie]
Please keep in mind, however, that Jews never enforce their belief or their needs on others, and we would never say that there needs to be kosher establishments unless we are willing to build and pay for them ourselves. We must object, however, to laws enacted that prevent us from following our religious laws, such as the latest vote in Dutch Parliament to ban both kosher and halal procedures. [The Dutch seem at present to be struggling with the right way to handle their demise.]
Thank God Geert Wilders won his trial, but this is the same country that allowed him to spend who knows how much to defend himself in a ridiculous witch-hunt trial.
US Sanctioned cruelty to live animals http://www.halalstock.com/agent.asp?caID=40
#3
Does PETA object to how animals are slaughter for Halal food preparation? It seems pretty brutal.
�� abīḥah (ذ� بِيْح� ة) is the prescribed method of slaughtering all animals excluding fish and most sea-life per Islamic law. This method of slaughtering animals consists of a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife that cut the front of the throat, the carotid artery, wind pipe and jugular veins but leave the spinal cord intact[2]. The objective of this technique is to more effectively drain the body of the animal’s blood, resulting in more hygienic meat. (From Wikipedia)
Answer:
YES….
“I’m going to be frank: After a minute and a half of GAIA’s latest undercover video footage from a halal slaughterhouse in Belgium, I had to stop watching. But while I was able to hit a pause button, the more than 250,000 cows, sheep, and goats who are slaughtered while they are still conscious must endure prolonged torment. Animals killed halal (according to Islamic law) cannot be stunned before their throats are cut, which means that many animals — including the cow shown in this video — fight and gasp for their last breath, struggling to stand while the blood drains from their necks.
Belgium forbids slaughter without prior stunning, but the law does not apply to ritual slaughter practices, even though much of the halal meat produced in the country is distributed both to religious and nonreligious markets. Islamic teachings encourage kindness and compassion toward all creatures, which is why many Muslims make the humane decision to go vegan. Visit IslamicConcern.com to learn more about cruelty-free alternatives to halal meat.”
Source and further information:
http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2009/12/08/the-cruelty-behind-muslim-ritual-slaughter.aspx?PageIndex=4
For the report, one Rabbi was not amused:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350768/posts Read more: Does PETA object to how animals are slaughter for Halal food preparation? It seems pretty brutal. | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2429153#ixzz1QiknNIp8
Also hat-tip BareNaked Islam
“Sharia Meat for All, Whether You Like or Not”-Atlas Shrugs
http://amerisrael.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/02/islamic-halal-sharia-meats-in-fredericksburg.html
Islamic Halal [Sharia] Meats in Fredericksburg
This is something new and regrettable for America’s most historic city: The first, and hopefully not long-lasting, Halal [Sharia] market.
The Nile Market
So what’s the big deal about Halal meats?
You owe it to yourself and everyone you know to watch this important video:
Some basic info on “Halal” meats via 4freedoms:
“It must be handled only by Muslims. Handling by any non-Muslim means the food has been “desecrated”, as Muslims refer to non-Muslims as “kuffar”, an insulting word to designate those who are inferior to Muslims.”
“Proceeds of Halal food are being sent to terrorist organizations such as Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood – who are behind most terrorist attacks not only in the West but also against Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Copts, and others, in their own countries.”
“Muslims must chant “In the name of Allah; Allah is the Greatest,” before slitting the throat of a fully conscious animal with a knife, and while facing the direction of Mecca.”
“Halal meat is not approved by most of the top chefs in the world, as the meat is dry and does not absorb much flavour. In fact most Chef Schools warn you against using Halal meat in preparation of dishes.”
“Most British and European supermarkets are selling labelled and unlabelled Halal meat to their customers without their knowledge.”
“When you buy Halal food you are paying a fee to Halal Islamic experts.”
“Some of those experts are certified by the UOIF, the Union of the Islamic Organizations in France, which has strong and intimate ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, a transnational political organization that supports terrorism.”
“Nearly 60 percent of halal food is controlled by organizations belonging to the Muslim brotherhood.”
From CBN:
“Halal food, food prepared according to Islamic sharia law, is becoming an increasing part of the Western diet and has become a multi-billion dollar global industry.”
“But CBN News has discovered that some of that money is funneled to groups tied to terrorism.”
“Muslim halal food is creeping into the food chain not only in France, but worldwide, including the United States.”
Also:
“So what’s the big deal about halal food? To some Frenchmen who are seeing the growing Islamization of their country, it’s a very big deal.”
“Islam is introducing sharia into our society and that’s not clear for people,” Alain Wagner, a French activist with the Alliance Against Sharia, said. “When you see halal food in shops you think, ‘Oh, it’s just a kind of food.’ No. it’s sharia.”
” According to some experts, a portion of the proceeds from halal food sales in France go to groups tied to terrorism.”
“When a French consumer buys Halal food, part of the price paid goes as a fee to Halal Islamic experts. Some of those experts are certified by the UOIF, the Union of the Islamic Organizations in France, which the Simon Wiesenthal Center reports has strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, a transnational political organization that supports terrorism.”
One of the Muslim organizations that provides a “certification” service for the sale of Halal meats in America is the ISNA [Islamic Society of North America]. The ISNA has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Until recently, Al Safa, a major supplier of Halal meats in America, had certification for its Halal meats provided by the ISNA.
A customer review of the Nile Market stated that frozen food meat from Al Safa could be ordered.
The introduction of “Halal,” or Sharia -ompliant foods in America, is part of the Islamization agenda Islamists have for this country.
“Some say halal food is no different than Kosher, but Wagner disagrees.”
“No, it’s not like kosher food. Kosher-eating people are not preaching for the destruction of democracy. Halal is sharia. And we need to ban any sharia-related thing in our society,” he said.”
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6/28/11
By Dorrie
A Bloody Business.
I have to say that the last thing I expected to be doing when I got up this morning was to study halal meat and how it gets to be halal, but the interest I’ve received on the previous two emails has made me keep looking into it . . . which led me to the video, which will/should break anyone’s heart who watches it. It is brutally hard to watch, believe me. I doubt I’ll sleep well this evening.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20110530/cattle/ (about 45 minutes)
Right Side News also had it today: http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011062813931/world/terrorism/global-jihad-marches-halal-the-new-stealth-jihad.html
I studied further in Reliance of the Traveler for the laws on halal meat. If you want to look it up, the instructions are found in J17.2 – J17.8. The gist of it is: It’s not halal unless the animal is alive (and some would argue, as is argued in this video, that it must also be conscious, which makes it inhumane at the least) when its throat is cut. Also, for the most part, it is not halal if any but a Muslim kills the animal.
This video sent me on a search for how animals that are destined for the American Muslim restaurants & markets are killed in America. These two are fairly good overviews, but neither go directly to any American slaughter facility to show how it’s being done here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhabihah; http://www.grandin.com/ritual/schematic.html. If any of you want to help me with research on that, I’d appreciate your input.
In searching, I happened to come across this site, http://www.zabihah.com, that as usual, shows how far ahead the Muslims are in pushing all things Sharia onto American citizens. Go ahead and put in your city in the box to Find halal food places near you . . .
KFC, in Dearbornistan, by the way, is serving all halal chicken. No real surprise there.
I am not claiming that Muslims’ requirement for halal meat is the problem . . . the problem is when they foist it on unsuspecting Americans who are then ipso facto supporting the tenets of Islam, #1 of which is that everybody has to submit to Islam. Halal is the new stealth jihad:
US Sanctioned cruelty to live animals http://www.halalstock.com/agent.asp?caID=40
From ask.com:
Does PETA object to how animals are slaughter for Halal food preparation? It seems pretty brutal.
Ḏabīḥah (ذَبِيْحَة) is the prescribed method of slaughtering all animals excluding fish and most sea-life per Islamic law. This method of slaughtering animals consists of a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife that cut the front of the throat, the carotid artery, wind pipe and jugular veins but leave the spinal cord intact[2]. The objective of this technique is to more effectively drain the body of the animal’s blood, resulting in more hygienic meat. (From Wikipedia)
Answer:
YES….
“I’m going to be frank—after a minute and a half of GAIA’s latest undercover video footage from a halal slaughterhouse in Belgium, I had to stop watching. But while I was able to hit a pause button, the more than 250,000 cows, sheep, and goats who are slaughtered while they are still conscious must endure prolonged torment. Animals killed halal (according to Islamic law) cannot be stunned before their throats are cut, which means that many animals—including the cow shown in this video—fight and gasp for their last breath, struggling to stand while the blood drains from their necks.
Belgium forbids slaughter without prior stunning, but the law does not apply to ritual slaughter practices, even though much of the halal meat produced in the country is distributed both to religious and nonreligious markets. Islamic teachings encourage kindness and compassion toward all creatures, which is why many Muslims make the humane decision to go vegan. Visit IslamicConcern.com to learn more about cruelty-free alternatives to halal meat.”
Source and further information:
http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2009/12/08/the-cruelty-behind-muslim-ritual-slaughter.aspx?PageIndex=4
For the report, one Rabbi was not amused:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350768/posts Read more: Does PETA object to how animals are slaughter for Halal food preparation? It seems pretty brutal. | Answerbag http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2429153#ixzz1QiknNIp8
Islamic Halal [Sharia] Meats in Fredericksburg
This is something new and regrettable for America’s most historic city:
The first, and hopefully not long lasting, Halal [Sharia] market.
The Nile Market
Also for sale were a Muslim prayer rug with built-in compass seen hanging on the wall.
So what’s the big deal about Halal meats?
You owe it to yourself and everyone you know to watch this important video:
Some basic info on “Halal” meats via 4freedoms:
“It must be handled only by Muslims. Handling by any non-Muslim means the food has been “desecrated”, as Muslims refer to non-Muslims as “kuffar”, an insulting word to designate those who are inferior to Muslims.”
“Proceeds of Halal food are being sent to terrorist organizations such as Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood – who are behind most terrorist attacks not only in the West but also against Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Copts, and others, in their own countries.”
“Muslims must chant “In the name of Allah; Allah is the Greatest,” before slitting the throat of a fully conscious animal with a knife, and while facing the direction of Mecca.”
“Halal meat is not approved by most of the top chefs in the world, as the meat is dry and does not absorb much flavour. In fact most Chef Schools warn you against using Halal meat in preparation of dishes.”
“Most British and European supermarkets are selling labelled and unlabelled Halal meat to their customers without their knowledge.”
“When you buy Halal food you are paying a fee to Halal Islamic experts.”
“Some of those experts are certified by the UOIF, the Union of the Islamic Organizations in France, which has strong and intimate ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, a transnational political organization that supports terrorism.”
“Nearly 60 percent of halal food is controlled by organizations belonging to the Muslim brotherhood.”
From CBN:
“Halal food, food prepared according to Islamic sharia law, is becoming an increasing part of the Western diet and has become a multi-billion dollar global industry.”
“But CBN News has discovered that some of that money is funneled to groups tied to terrorism.”
“Muslim halal food is creeping into the food chain not only in France, but worldwide, including the United States.”
Also:
“So what’s the big deal about halal food? To some Frenchmen who are seeing the growing Islamization of their country, it’s a very big deal.”
“Islam is introducing sharia into our society and that’s not clear for people,” Alain Wagner, a French activist with the Alliance Against Sharia, said. “When you see halal food in shops you think, ‘Oh, it’s just a kind of food.’ No. it’s sharia.”
“According to some experts, a portion of the proceeds from halal food sales in France go to groups tied to terrorism.”
“When a French consumer buys Halal food, part of the price paid goes as a fee to Halal Islamic experts. Some of those experts are certified by the UOIF, the Union of the Islamic Organizations in France, which the Simon Wiesenthal Center reports has strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, a transnational political organization that supports terrorism.”-be sure to read the entire report.
One of the Muslim organizations that provides a “certification” service for the sale of Halal meats in America is the ISNA [Islamic Society of North America].
The ISNA has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Until recently, Al Safa, a major supplier of Halal meats in America, had certification for it’s Halal meats provided by the ISNA.
A customer review of the Nile Market stated that frozen food meat from Al Safa could be ordered.
The introduction of “Halal”, or Sharia compliant foods in America, is part of the Islamization agenda Islamists have for this country.
“Some say halal food is no different than Kosher, but Wagner disagrees.”
“No, it’s not like kosher food. Kosher-eating people are not preaching for the destruction of democracy. Halal is sharia. And we need to ban any sharia-related thing in our society,” he said.”
Also hat-tip BareNaked Islam
“Sharia Meat for All, Whether You Like or Not”-Atlas Shrugs
http://amerisrael.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/02/islamic-halal-sharia-meats-in-fredericksburg.html
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